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Postby kory@dancedepot.com » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:56 am

Afternoon all. I was hoping to hear any feedback/tips regarding search
engine results. More specifically, I'm curious to hear if anyone can offer
insight to the results I'm getting between Yahoo vs. Google.

In Yahoo, I'm doing great. My pages are consistently in the top page or two
for many key search terms. Yahoo is my #1 referring page. Interestingly,
however, the pages that appear more often are my main pages, even though
more specific content is found on my More Information pages.

In Google, I'm not doing nearly as well. In fact, I can only find a couple
of my pages altogether.

My site has only been live for about a month, when I submitted it to all the
search engines. That might be part of the problem.

So specifically, with Yahoo, any guesses as to why my main pages appear
great, but my More Information pages are appearing less frequently?

With Google, am I just being impatient? I figured if a couple pages would
appear on Google, it would mean my site has been indexed and they'd all
appear.

I understand about Search Engine Optimization, and how to improve your
rankings, etc., but at this point I'm more curious about getting my pages
listed on Yahoo/Google in the first place.

Thanks in advance,

Kory
--------------
Kory Barrett
Dance Depot ­ Performance Dancewear at Discount Prices!!!
kory@dancedepot.com
http://www.dancedepot.com
kory@dancedepot.com
 

Re: Search Engine Results

Postby loren_d_c » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:51 pm

I'm far from a SEO expert, but it sounds like you are doing great on
Yahoo. Google is slow. It took my site a few months to get indexed at
all, and a couple of years before it was on the first page of results
when searching for the exact name of my company. Maybe purchasing some
AdWords from them would help speed things up. Also, getting established
sites that are already indexed by Google to link to your site should
also help.

-Loren



kory@dancedepot.com wrote:
Afternoon all. I was hoping to hear any feedback/tips regarding search
engine results. More specifically, I'm curious to hear if anyone can offer
insight to the results I'm getting between Yahoo vs. Google.

In Yahoo, I'm doing great. My pages are consistently in the top page or two
for many key search terms. Yahoo is my #1 referring page. Interestingly,
however, the pages that appear more often are my main pages, even though
more specific content is found on my More Information pages.

In Google, I'm not doing nearly as well. In fact, I can only find a couple
of my pages altogether.

My site has only been live for about a month, when I submitted it to all the
search engines. That might be part of the problem.

So specifically, with Yahoo, any guesses as to why my main pages appear
great, but my More Information pages are appearing less frequently?

With Google, am I just being impatient? I figured if a couple pages would
appear on Google, it would mean my site has been indexed and they'd all
appear.

I understand about Search Engine Optimization, and how to improve your
rankings, etc., but at this point I'm more curious about getting my pages
listed on Yahoo/Google in the first place.

Thanks in advance,

Kory
--------------
Kory Barrett
Dance Depot ­ Performance Dancewear at Discount Prices!!!
kory@dancedepot.com
http://www.dancedepot.com
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Re: Search Engine Results

Postby Larry Bohen » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:18 pm

Kory; My experience with Google is that sometimes a site or a Webpage can
show up in several days.

I recommend you study the sites that rank high in google for your most
important keywords. Particularly study their page titles <TITLE></TITLE> and
the body of their homepage to see how many, where and what keywords they are
featuring. Keywords early in the body carry more weight than the same
keywords at the end of body copy.

I did a Google search for ballet slippers. The first organic search result
is www.nydancewear.com. Here is their page title:
<title>NY Dancewear featuring dancewear, ballet slippers, pointe shoes, jazz
shoes, leotards.</title>

Notice they have several keywords in their title. I also searched for ballet
slippers at yahoo.com and nydancewear.com didn't show up on the first page.

Your page title is <title>DanceDepot.com </title>

Page titles are very important and should contain several of your keywords.

Just adding some keywords in your page title should improve your Google
positions.

There is likely more that you can do, but I would start with the page title
change.
--
Larry Bohen
www.audiobooksonline.com

<kory@dancedepot.com> wrote in message
news:BF4DEAB0.9D01%kory@dancedepot.com...
Afternoon all. I was hoping to hear any feedback/tips regarding search
engine results. More specifically, I'm curious to hear if anyone can offer
insight to the results I'm getting between Yahoo vs. Google.

In Yahoo, I'm doing great. My pages are consistently in the top page or
two
for many key search terms. Yahoo is my #1 referring page. Interestingly,
however, the pages that appear more often are my main pages, even though
more specific content is found on my More Information pages.

In Google, I'm not doing nearly as well. In fact, I can only find a couple
of my pages altogether.

My site has only been live for about a month, when I submitted it to all
the
search engines. That might be part of the problem.

So specifically, with Yahoo, any guesses as to why my main pages appear
great, but my More Information pages are appearing less frequently?

With Google, am I just being impatient? I figured if a couple pages would
appear on Google, it would mean my site has been indexed and they'd all
appear.

I understand about Search Engine Optimization, and how to improve your
rankings, etc., but at this point I'm more curious about getting my pages
listed on Yahoo/Google in the first place.

Thanks in advance,

Kory
--------------
Kory Barrett
Dance Depot ­ Performance Dancewear at Discount Prices!!!
kory@dancedepot.com
http://www.dancedepot.com
Larry Bohen
 

Re: Search Engine Results

Postby Don Lundell » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:30 pm

Also, make sure to submit a Froogle feed.

- dc
Don Lundell
 

Re: Search Engine Results

Postby Harvey » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:45 pm

Google has change its calculation for the search result. It use page rank
for listing your page and how often people click on your page if you use
google adword.

When more people click on your page, google will put your page on the first
search resuld on the sponsor link column. If you have tons of other websites
(some website with page rank of 5 or 6) link to your home page, google will
put your page on the first search result page.

I am interesting to get my home page up in the first page in Yahoo. Yahoo is
using different calculation, it seems who page higher price will be on the
first page. Would you share your experience with yahoo here?

Harvey
www.ihomewholesale.com

<kory@dancedepot.com> wrote in message
news:BF4DEAB0.9D01%kory@dancedepot.com...
Afternoon all. I was hoping to hear any feedback/tips regarding search
engine results. More specifically, I'm curious to hear if anyone can offer
insight to the results I'm getting between Yahoo vs. Google.

In Yahoo, I'm doing great. My pages are consistently in the top page or
two
for many key search terms. Yahoo is my #1 referring page. Interestingly,
however, the pages that appear more often are my main pages, even though
more specific content is found on my More Information pages.

In Google, I'm not doing nearly as well. In fact, I can only find a couple
of my pages altogether.

My site has only been live for about a month, when I submitted it to all
the
search engines. That might be part of the problem.

So specifically, with Yahoo, any guesses as to why my main pages appear
great, but my More Information pages are appearing less frequently?

With Google, am I just being impatient? I figured if a couple pages would
appear on Google, it would mean my site has been indexed and they'd all
appear.

I understand about Search Engine Optimization, and how to improve your
rankings, etc., but at this point I'm more curious about getting my pages
listed on Yahoo/Google in the first place.

Thanks in advance,

Kory
--------------
Kory Barrett
Dance Depot ­ Performance Dancewear at Discount Prices!!!
kory@dancedepot.com
http://www.dancedepot.com
Harvey
 

Re: Search Engine Results

Postby kory@dancedepot.com » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:49 pm

I didn't really have any "tricks" to get good Yahoo rankings. I used logical
Page and More Info titles, and made sure I had a good Meta Description. The
free 90-day trial of Submit.net had some good tips.

I'm really confused about Yahoo vs. Google. I do really well with Yahoo, but
not Google. I want to get good Google rankings without relying on Adwords. I
was hoping that my success with Yahoo would translate to Google once my site
had been indexed (by Google), but I didn't see that happen.

If anyone has more info on what Google is looking for (versus Yahoo) I'd
love to hear it. I'm almost hesitant to change things to try for good Google
rankings not knowing if they'd negatively impact my Yahoo success. I figured
the results would be similar but that's not what I'm experiencing.

Take care,

Kory
--------------
Kory Barrett
Dance Depot ­ Performance Dancewear at Discount Prices!!!
kory@dancedepot.com
http://www.dancedepot.com


From: Harvey <harvey@ihomewholesale.com
Organization: ShopSite
Newsgroups: forum.shopsite
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:45:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Search Engine Results

Google has change its calculation for the search result. It use page rank
for listing your page and how often people click on your page if you use
google adword.

When more people click on your page, google will put your page on the first
search resuld on the sponsor link column. If you have tons of other websites
(some website with page rank of 5 or 6) link to your home page, google will
put your page on the first search result page.

I am interesting to get my home page up in the first page in Yahoo. Yahoo is
using different calculation, it seems who page higher price will be on the
first page. Would you share your experience with yahoo here?

Harvey
www.ihomewholesale.com

kory@dancedepot.com> wrote in message
news:BF4DEAB0.9D01%kory@dancedepot.com...
Afternoon all. I was hoping to hear any feedback/tips regarding search
engine results. More specifically, I'm curious to hear if anyone can offer
insight to the results I'm getting between Yahoo vs. Google.

In Yahoo, I'm doing great. My pages are consistently in the top page or
two
for many key search terms. Yahoo is my #1 referring page. Interestingly,
however, the pages that appear more often are my main pages, even though
more specific content is found on my More Information pages.

In Google, I'm not doing nearly as well. In fact, I can only find a couple
of my pages altogether.

My site has only been live for about a month, when I submitted it to all
the
search engines. That might be part of the problem.

So specifically, with Yahoo, any guesses as to why my main pages appear
great, but my More Information pages are appearing less frequently?

With Google, am I just being impatient? I figured if a couple pages would
appear on Google, it would mean my site has been indexed and they'd all
appear.

I understand about Search Engine Optimization, and how to improve your
rankings, etc., but at this point I'm more curious about getting my pages
listed on Yahoo/Google in the first place.

Thanks in advance,

Kory
--------------
Kory Barrett
Dance Depot ­ Performance Dancewear at Discount Prices!!!
kory@dancedepot.com
http://www.dancedepot.com


kory@dancedepot.com
 

Re: Search Engine Results

Postby Harvey » Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:01 pm

Yahoo and Google using different directories and search engine. Submit.net
is for yahoo not google. When you join submit.net, yahoo index your site to
it directories. I am thinking about to join submit.net for last few days.

AdWord is only for Sponsor links column. If you join Adword you don't need
to pay the highest price to get to top. You could pay as low as $0.05 per
click and still can get to the top 10 list. When more people click on your
ads google will bring you to the tops.

Google is using PageRank (PR) from 0 to 10 for the search result. To get to
top 10 list you need higher PR. Ther are few ways to get PR. One is pay some
high PR number (6 or higher) but this is very expensive. They asking $30 per
month for each website. Second, you coule exchange links as much as you can
to get higher PR. There are 2 way to get index in Google. one is submit
request fron google. second, have a website already index in google link
your website. Have some one website link to your website is the most fast
way to get index in google.

You don't need to change anything for google on yahoo.

We could exchange links to get speed up the PR.

Harvey
http://www.ihomewholesale.com

<kory@dancedepot.com> wrote in message
news:BF54FEED.A085%kory@dancedepot.com...
I didn't really have any "tricks" to get good Yahoo rankings. I used
logical
Page and More Info titles, and made sure I had a good Meta Description.
The
free 90-day trial of Submit.net had some good tips.

I'm really confused about Yahoo vs. Google. I do really well with Yahoo,
but
not Google. I want to get good Google rankings without relying on Adwords.
I
was hoping that my success with Yahoo would translate to Google once my
site
had been indexed (by Google), but I didn't see that happen.

If anyone has more info on what Google is looking for (versus Yahoo) I'd
love to hear it. I'm almost hesitant to change things to try for good
Google
rankings not knowing if they'd negatively impact my Yahoo success. I
figured
the results would be similar but that's not what I'm experiencing.

Take care,

Kory
--------------
Kory Barrett
Dance Depot ­ Performance Dancewear at Discount Prices!!!
kory@dancedepot.com
http://www.dancedepot.com


From: Harvey <harvey@ihomewholesale.com
Organization: ShopSite
Newsgroups: forum.shopsite
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:45:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Search Engine Results

Google has change its calculation for the search result. It use page rank
for listing your page and how often people click on your page if you use
google adword.

When more people click on your page, google will put your page on the
first
search resuld on the sponsor link column. If you have tons of other
websites
(some website with page rank of 5 or 6) link to your home page, google
will
put your page on the first search result page.

I am interesting to get my home page up in the first page in Yahoo. Yahoo
is
using different calculation, it seems who page higher price will be on
the
first page. Would you share your experience with yahoo here?

Harvey
www.ihomewholesale.com

kory@dancedepot.com> wrote in message
news:BF4DEAB0.9D01%kory@dancedepot.com...
Afternoon all. I was hoping to hear any feedback/tips regarding search
engine results. More specifically, I'm curious to hear if anyone can
offer
insight to the results I'm getting between Yahoo vs. Google.

In Yahoo, I'm doing great. My pages are consistently in the top page or
two
for many key search terms. Yahoo is my #1 referring page. Interestingly,
however, the pages that appear more often are my main pages, even though
more specific content is found on my More Information pages.

In Google, I'm not doing nearly as well. In fact, I can only find a
couple
of my pages altogether.

My site has only been live for about a month, when I submitted it to all
the
search engines. That might be part of the problem.

So specifically, with Yahoo, any guesses as to why my main pages appear
great, but my More Information pages are appearing less frequently?

With Google, am I just being impatient? I figured if a couple pages
would
appear on Google, it would mean my site has been indexed and they'd all
appear.

I understand about Search Engine Optimization, and how to improve your
rankings, etc., but at this point I'm more curious about getting my
pages
listed on Yahoo/Google in the first place.

Thanks in advance,

Kory
--------------
Kory Barrett
Dance Depot ­ Performance Dancewear at Discount Prices!!!
kory@dancedepot.com
http://www.dancedepot.com



Harvey
 


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